New Zealand Modern Bikes Rule

The article below was written by Jamie Scott, our head coach in New Zealand.

The New Zealand Women in the Mountains Modern Bikes Rule

I recently had to let my 2013 Specialized Stumpjumper go.  It was a good bike. A great bike even. And I have to say this because I had spent the 2 years prior to selling it upgrading everything on it except the main triangle.  And I mean everything. Other than that main triangle, nothing was original. Coach Erica proved the best contact to have during this operation, sourcing linkages and carbon bits that were otherwise hard to get here at the bottom of the world (New Zealand).

No matter what I did to that bike though, and no matter how much money I spent, there was one thing I couldn’t really change – that it was from 2013 and thus was built around 2013 sizing standards.  By 2019 standards, it was simply too small for me and the type of riding I was now doing. Being too small (too short in the reach and wheelbase to be precise), made it feel twitchy and a bit kicky over jumps (though I have to put my hand up and say a good portion of that issue resides solely with my lack of jumping skill).

With the above realization, my old faithful was broken into her component parts and sold off.  The good news story here, however, was that this meant it was now NBD – New Bike Day. My new 2019 Stumpjumper was now longer, lower, and slacker.  At first I didn’t want to believe the hype, but I couldn’t ignore it. The evidence was in the first ride. Despite the new rig being adorned with the very same drive train and braking system as the old bike, the longer wheelbase and better geometry calmed the bike down, left it feeling much more stable (especially at speed and through gnarly terrain), and ultimately gave me much more confidence.

More confidence.  This is the essence of the Women in the Mountains skills clinics.  Teaching women the fundamental skills of piloting a mountain bike so they can feel competent and confident.  Riding with confidence means having more fun while you ride. And whilst sometimes is isn’t all about the bike, sometimes it actually is about the bike.

Case in point.  A couple of weeks back, I took a group of ladies through our Christchurch skills clinic.  Two friends in the group, both of similar experience and ability, turned up on two very different bikes.  Polar opposite bikes, in fact. One was literally a brand spankers 2019 Liv. Full suspension.  Tires with enough grip to tear the fabric of the universe.  A great little machine. The other, well it was something different altogether.

It looked like a mountain bike except I’m guessing that somewhere in the original owner’s manual would have been the line “not suitable for use off-road.”  It was a hard tail, with an old school coil fork of unspecified travel (not much, and what it did have felt like a pogo stick), and whilst it did have hydraulic disk brakes, they were the types which, once they start to get warm, fade very quickly.  The tires were “fast rolling” - which is generally code for “low grip and control” - and it certainly didn’t have a dropper post. It did have gears though. Lots of gears. Something like 21 of them spread across three front chainrings.

Now at this point, the woman who piloted this bike was a trooper.  She got in there, and given all the limitations of her rig, she was able to put my repeated and at times long-winded reinforcement of “body position is everything” into action and get her bike down the trail.  Just. For after an afternoon of actually riding it off-road and down mountains, it was taking its last gasp. NBD coming up for her too.

Contrasting these two friends and their bikes from what feel like different eras really brought home to me the reason why, at Women in the Mountains, we have a rule around the age and standards of the bikes.  As I said above, each one of these ladies started from the same point, but by the end of the clinic one was relishing the stability and control her bike afforded her, effortlessly gliding over roots and rocks, while the other was gently nursing her bike through terrain it was never really meant to face.  Despite being an absolute beginner, one day of Women in the Mountains and she was already a far better rider than her bike was ever going to allow her to fully be.

Older bikes (2015 or older) are (with exceptions, of course) much shorter in the wheelbase, leaving them feeling easily unsettled on rougher terrain compared to their longer, more modern counterparts.  They are also steeper in their frame angles, meaning the terrain doesn’t need to point down too much before you feel like you are getting pitched over the handlebars. As mentioned in the example above, their brakes, while fine for flat terrain at lower speeds, quickly find themselves well out of their depth with the type of repeated braking needed when riding steeper mountain bike trails.

Perhaps their biggest limitation of all, however, is that these older bikes often lack a dropper seat post (hydraulic seat post).  Being able to shift your saddle and seat post down and out of the way in order to get in a better, more centred and stable position over the bike, is without doubt in my mind, the biggest game changer in modern mountain biking.  Some older bikes have the quick release style levers on the seat post, allowing you to stop, drop, then roll. But even then, there is often only so far into the frame you can push the seat post, and the rider just cannot get into a strong, stable position over the bike.

We love that so many women are wanting to learn how to ride better.  We also respect the fact that modern bikes are a significant investment for many.  Despite our desire to minimize exclusions from our clinics, we really do need to draw a line in the sand when it comes to the level (age/capability) of bikes women are bringing along.  A bike that sort of looks like a mountain bike but is actually closer to a road bike, or perhaps more commonly, a commuter bike with chunky tires, is just not suitable for the types of clinics and lessons we run.  They are also not safe for the off-road areas more women are wanting to ride in. An unsafe bike is not a fun nor confidence-inspiring bike to learn on, and the very last thing we want is for you to leave one of our clinics feeling LESS confident than when you arrived.

From 2021 on we are going to become a bit stricter on our bike age rule.  We ask that attendees have a suitable trail/all-mountain/enduro bike from 2016 or later.  If you don’t have a modern mountain bike, but still want to come along to one of our clinics, that is fab!  There are plenty of places around offering daily mountain bike hire. This is an easy way to not only learn new skills on a more suitable bike, but to get a feel for whether it is something you will enjoy and want to invest in (please don’t make the classic mistake of riding an old, worn out bike in terrain it was never meant for to gauge whether you will like it – believe us – you won’t).

Those minimum standards are:

  • A trail/all-mountain/enduro bike – 2016 or later

  • Front suspension of 100mm or greater

  • Hydraulic disc brakes

  • Hydraulic dropper seat post

If you are unsure whether your current bike is up for it, just check in with us before making a booking and tell us what you have got.  We can talk bikes all day and will only be too happy to help you out with some options.

Coach Jamie

Christchurch, New Zealand


Christchurch November 23rd Clinic

Our Christchurch clinics are the place to be!

Repost @arcticfox_mtb Good times yesterday with @jamiescott_mtb running a beginner @womeninthemountains clinic. These rad ladies started off a little nervous. By the end of the day they were tackling a rooty chute, steep loose descent and reading the trail. The stoke was high and I hope to see them on the hills putting in some practice!

Last weekend’s clinic in Christchurch was a smashing success, mainly because of the participants willingness to trust the process and to have a go.  They all did so amazingly well – coaches Anastasia and Jamie are still buzzing about the fantastic clinic!

St. George Intermediate Clinic

Check out these rock stars! Our intermediate clinic today was super strong (and tons of fun). They climbed and descended all shapes of rocks with differing techniques. Here is what they climbed!

Our intermediate clinic on really took their skills up a notch. They all had experience riding and wanted to be more confident riding in the desert. Mission accomplished! Such good energy with the group all day long, incredible women in these clinics!

St. George Beginner Desert Skills Clinic

Beginner clinic in the desert yesterday! These women were truly phenomenal. We started at the beginning, with the basics. They absolutely crushed them, so we moved on to some intermediate skills. They rode rocks yesterday that were way beyond typical beginners and we were all so incredibly stoked!! Stay tuned for more photos of what they rode....these are just a few of the first rocks they rode, it got even more exciting!

Christchurch November 9th Clinic

Another fantastic clinic in Christchurch! This group of beginners was eager to learn in addition to feeling nervous about taking on mountain biking. They all came through the day very well and were totally fizzing at the end of the clinic! They rolled away with more tools to use and a few are eager to buy new bikes! ⁣

Thanks to coach @jamiescott_mtb for creating an environment for these women to safely learn to ride their bikes!

Our beginner clinic in Christchurch last weekend focused on body position for descending, how to ride over small roots and down gentle slopes.

They were all elated to ride obstacles and trails they would never have done otherwise, in an environment they’ve never gone to.  We expect that when they return to their familiar trails, they will suddenly find they are much easier to ride. We’ve already heard from a couple of them that they are going to invest in a newer bike! We are stoked to get more women on their bikes!

Christchurch November 2nd Clinic

Our Christchurch, New Zealand clinics began this weekend! Everyone had a blast and learned a ton!⁣ The beginner clinic in Christchurch, New Zealand last weekend had some great success. They worked on body position for descending and other essentials to keep them safe. The final challenge went very well. They had a small section of forest with some roots (small) and had to find their own line down, doing a trail walk first. Once they had their line and had cleared it with coach Jamie, they rode it and they were all successful!

Repost @jamiescott_mtb Butts were over bottom brackets, boobs were over bars, bodies and bikes were separated, skids were pulled, corners railed, and trails were read and shredded. All in all, a great Women in the Mountains day was had with Denise, Brenda, Sandra, Lynette and Jacqui.

Sisters

These sisters had a blast being coached yesterday. Kerri’s son bought the session as a birthday gift for his mom (great idea)!

Laureen is from New York and is in Park City visiting her sister. They took this opportunity to learn to mountain bike together. They are both new to mountain biking and were amazed at what they were able to ride after learning some basic bike and body positions. Coach Shelly had tons of fun watching them roll over rocks and around corners all the while laughing out loud! In fact, they laughed most of the day which is a great way to learn. We love seeing riders gain so much confidence in such a short amount of time!

Glide SUP Executive Team, session 2

The executive team from @glideSUP returned for their second session of the season. They had time to practice the skills they learned in June all summer and they even upgraded their bikes! We warmed up with berms, then rolled over some rocks and wooden features and finished in the twilight with a tight switchback and then pedal wheelies in the parking lot. So stoked for this crew to keep progressing as a group of friends and co-workers!

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Weekday Cornering clinic, Session 2

This session was the second in our cornering clinic series. Two of the women bought new bikes between sessions, that is how inspired they are feeling to ride and get their skills dialed in! This week, we added tighter corners drills so they are prepared to ride corners, berms, switchbacks, anything! We took it to a different trail than our last session to work on vision and body position. Each of these riders is stoked to practice their new skills and come back for another clinic in the spring!

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MTB Chuck Norris

Such an energetic private session with bike ninja @savahnnacunningham earlier this week! Savahnna took one of our group clinics in August and has been practicing ever since. She was ready for a private session to take her skills up a notch.  She is preparing to race her first Enduro in the spring and wanted specific feedback on cornering faster (which involves lot of moving pieces). Savahnna WILL have lots of success as a rider, swipe all the way to the last photos to see she is MTB Chuck Norris!

Wasatch Road and trail retreat, day 4

Last day of our retreat was another #bestdayever. We couldn’t get over the views and the single track, next level beauty! So many more photos to share, stay tuned this week!

@cathy_kendall was so stoked to get a flat so she could learn how to repair it! When you start to love what is in front of you, aka: reality, life gets super fun!#lovingwhatis #flatsarefun

Wasatch Road and Trail, Day 4 part 2

The other part of our retreat rode through stunning trees yesterday with @coachklane! They were stoked to have more coaching opportunities and practice on the corners. Each of them finished the ride with smiles and eager to go practice their new skills ASAP! Our trails are in perfect condition right now and we just can’t get enough!!!

Wasatch Road and Trail Retreat, Day 3

Every day of this retreat feels like “best day ever”!!! We had phenomenal views, weather and riding today! Truly couldn’t have asked for a better day! Love all of these women and the fun we are having!

Wasatch Road and Trail Retreat, Day 2

Yesterday may have started with some snow and rain, that didn’t stop us! The moment there was a break in storms we got on our bikes! We split into 2 groups and utilized every moment of dry weather and one of groups even kept going in the hail (mainly because they had to get back down!). Soaked in rain, hail and a wee bit of mud and still SMILING!!! Day 1 of our retreat with @wasatchroadandtrail & @heidenortho was a great success!

Becky

Early morning private session with Becky. We worked on getting her into a slightly lower ready position and looking through the turns. She is going to practice this week and come back next week to work on switchbacks!

Mary

Mary is an avid road biker and is looking to take all of her fitness and learn some skills in the dirt.


Coach Shelly worked with her to separate her body from the bike, especially in the corners.  Mary recently added  a dropper post to her bike at that REALLY helped her make those tight turns!   


Many road cyclists like to ride with a very narrow stance (gripping the saddle with their thighs). The biggest shift we can add for them on a mountain bike is the wider stance, which allows the bike to do all the work under them and they stay loose and relaxed above the bike.  

Jill & Blyth

Between the two women on the right, they have 20+ grandchildren! How incredible is that?! They frequently run into some of the grandkids on the trails. They’ll be riding along and hear “Hi Grandma”! How cool is that? These two clients have been riding for many years and knew they had some skills to improve. They also want to be sure they stay safe on the trails because it’s not quite as fun to get hurt as the years go by. They both finished the session feeling like that had many more tools to rely on for safety AND fun! Their second session is later this week after they’ve had a chance to practice.

Women of Adobe session #2

Adobe Women session #2: we saw a HUGE improvement during the second session. These women were riding corners with so much confidence and ease. A couple of them started out with very little experience and we were so impressed with their bravery and willingness to try new skills in the dirt! Coaches @wedgeshelly and @ericatingey sincerely had a blast with this crew and can’t wait to see where they take their new skills! @adobe @adobecycling

Dianne and Jay

Diane and Jay came out for the second session of their dynamic riding sequence, and we saw some great improvement from both of them! Coach @vsolomon36 dialed in their wheel lifts, drops, and cornering. This happy couple wanted to work on the smaller wood drops so they can work up to larger rock drops. Virginia is getting them dialed in on smaller drops in preparation to hit the rocks when they feel ready. As a couple, Diane and Jay are determined to get over the mental hurdle they have around riding rocky drops (and we believe in them!) Their real break through came in cornering. Virginia worked with them on bike body separation with their low/look/lean, remembering that great riders look with shoulders and hips not just eyes.

After some cornering drills in the parking lot, they hit the trails and were so excited with their cornering improvement! Coach and students had a blast!

Marisol

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“Recomendado 100%⁣⁣

⁣⁣Una experiencia increíble!!!⁣⁣

Aprendi  tanto en pocas horas, las coaches súper lindas pude aprender y mejorar mis habilidades, me hicieron sentir confiada en la montaña a la vez tuve retos que gracias a la ayuda de las coaches pude lograr, y también la convivencia con las compañeras estuvo súper bien.⁣⁣

La verdad vale la pena probar.⁣⁣

Gracias a todas⁣”

⁣Mari S ⁣

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Find full translation below, but first we must tell you how cool it was to have Mari at our clinic on Saturday! She has 5 children and works full time. She decided it was time to do something for herself and learn how to ride mountain bikes. She was very coachable and fun to be around. She wants to inspire other Spanish speaking women in Park City to try mountain biking as well! We even have a coach that speaks Spanish and would love to connect with everyone in our community!⁣

⁣”Recommended 100 %⁣⁣

An amazing experience!!!⁣⁣

I learned so much in just a few hours. Super cute coaches - I learned and improved my skills, they made me feel confident on the bike and at the same time I had challenges that thanks to the help of the coaches I could overcome. Also, the connection with the other participants was super good.⁣⁣

The truth is, it was worth trying!⁣⁣

⁣⁣Thanks to all⁣”

Mari S

Thank YOU Mari! We absolutely loved having you there, can’t wait to see where your riding takes you!

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